Tell me when you used Judo for self defense?

Tell me when you used Judo for self defense or just to kick some butt. How did everything happen?, what technique did you use?, what was the end result?.

Please only Judo.

I'm somewhere between beginner and intermediate in jujutsu, but after learning some basic hip and over the shoulder throws from a basic Judo stance, I started working them in from big haymaker type punches. This way I won't have to fight to pull someone off balance; they'll provide their own forward momentum when they step into the punch, and I can just step in and amplify that momentum with my own pull. Result: easy ippon seio nage.

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Judo students/teachers: What would you use to end a normal self-defense style fistfight?

There are no weapons involved, no multiple attackers, just a straight forward fistfight. How would you end that fight?

I would assume most would say using a choke and choke them out. But, isn't that dangerous? Couldn't you permanently damage someone or kill them using Judo chokes to unconciousness? Is it worth the risk legally also? Wouldn't the courts/police frown upon the use of a choke on an attacker?

If you wouldn't use chokes what else would you do? Most martial artists have a general gameplan in their minds before any situation arises for them to use their skills. For example, boxers, their general gameplan is to strike their attacker with their fists. Judo would most predictably want to use their throws, pins, chokes, or armlocks.

What would you do as a student/teacher of Judo?

Chokes, chokes and more chokes.

I have used chokes to a great efficiency in "fist fights".

A choke is about the safest thing you can do to a guy. You don't break anything, you don't cause bleeding (which I am not a fan of intermixing blood with random strangers), and you don't risk serious injury to the person in reality.

Police used carotid artery holds for years, most departments ban them now simply because the tazer is more effective and there have been a few fatalities due to people with pre-existing brain damage and serious drug use.

I can tell you from a legal stand point choking a guy into unconsciousness and walking away from the situation lends a lot more creedence then if you bludgeoned him half to death. It's hard for anyone to have sympathy for a guy without a mark on him. But you go into a situation with a guy who had a hospital trip, and looks like hamburger meat while you walk into a court room with minimal damage, it looks a lot worst.

To cause permanent damage or death to a person, you would literally have to hold the choke on them for well over a minute after they were already unconscious. That is a long time in a physical confrontation, and an especially long time to hold on to a limp life person who is twitching and snoring.

Mind you there is rare occassions where the carotid ribbons off, but that risk is no greater than someone falling weird or a punch causing a life threatening brain injury, in fact it is far less likely you will injure or harm someone with a choke then with a punch or blunt force trauma.

I have choked out easily over 30 people in "fist fight scenarios" while working security at bars. I can tell you Law Enforcement greatly appreciated an already subdued person, who was not bleeding all over the place. The times I have gone to court it had been such a clear case that I haven't had the slightest issue.

Mind you I am an advance level practitioner, I have choked out numerous people with a lot of safety nets in place far before I ever attempted to do it to a person on the street.

Additionally there is a caveat to that, NEVER and I repeat NEVER put a person in a choke and not render them unconscious in a street scenario. I make sure I don't let go of a choke until a person is completely unconscious, I know the signs and symptoms. Choking a person half way will only make them fight for their life, it ups their intensity level to survival type of responses. If you slap a choke on a guy in a fight, you better not let off it until they are snoring.

As I said, you are in a far more defensable position legally by choking a guy out then by beating him unconscious, and you risk far less chance of injury to yourself and the person you are fighting.

One more consideration is to not reveal you placed a guy in a choke hold, I would simply go "we wrestled around and he went unconscious", if under oath I never lied about it. But at the time if police intervention became involved I didn't go into move by move detail, by in large they aren't interested in that anyway. "Guy came at me, I was in fear of my life, I defended myself, somehow he is unconscious" usually suffices, especially when the guy doesn't look like he got ran over by a truck or beaten to death by an angry mob.

Just my experience.

(psst Modern Samurai) Judo has more chokes than BJJ... also where do you think all those chokes in BJJ came from?

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